Mar 13, 2004

RAVENMAJI: Are you online?

RAVENMAJI: You on??

RAVENMAJI: I will have a somewhat access to a storehouse of Eagles Disobey books coming up. The somewhat is what I need to talk with you about. I will call you tomorrow night right around midnight eastern time.

DONDEP: ?

RAVENMAJI: Yes he does.

DONDEP: "He does"??!

RAVENMAJI: Of course Burisch knows!

DONDEP: was concerned!

RAVENMAJI: hold on for just a minute ok?

RAVENMAJI: You won't believe what happened today at UNLV.

DONDEP: what happened? then I must tell you our new security arrangement here with the team

RAVENMAJI: Ok. Dan and Deb had their meeting alright, but not with a dignitary--or is he?????

DONDEP: depends.... who was it? Bill?

RAVENMAJI: My operatives got photos that they say will show Deborah and Dan---and Dan with Bill Hamilton.

DONDEP: not surprised.

RAVENMAJI: Deborah was dressed to the 9's. Dan in gray scrubs.

DONDEP: so, Deb now in on this too.... unless this was known all along.

RAVENMAJI: Deb left early--stormed out of the meeting.

DONDEP: Bill told another researcher (whom we know) that you had been replaced; that you were a 'plant' of some kind, and I don't mean a vegetable

RAVENMAJI: Dan met with Bill privately then and then they took a long slow walk across the campus.

DONDEP: stormed out you say?

RAVENMAJI: She looked pissed off according to the ops. That I have been replaced? The Raven is NEVER replaced! — They may k me, but not replace me!

DONDEP: We didn't believe it, at least I didn't. Do you remember telling me about a "medium-sized house", back when you indicated you may have been able to send some copies of Eagles Dis...?

RAVENMAJI: Harrdhawk told me yesterday that GLP would track Dan on the Ides. I expect him at the location.

DONDEP: Well, that is one of the issues — He had told us the very next day when your friend gave us that info that he would be able to go down there.

RAVENMAJI: Medium sized, not specifically-- but they stole all my shit.

DONDEP: that was how many weeks ago? (the medium-size had to do with where Dan's papers were stored)— anyway, there is a split in the group; but we will not publicize it

RAVENMAJI: I have access to that location coming up, kind of access.

RAVENMAJI: Split?

DONDEP: some of the group have become quite hostile to my request they make a single page statement that this story means something, and that the avatar known as dondep has posted along with many others since the beginning — (I asked for this for Immigration; so they know I am not concocting this story —I asked for nothing more. But they would prefer to grawk; only some of them.

RAVENMAJI: They don't want to help you?

DONDEP: Some do not. Others are helping.

RAVENMAJI: Hell take what you can get.

DONDEP: Harry has passed judgement, as have about 4 others. The majority are helping tho. — yes, am taking what we can get.,

RAVENMAJI: If I send you a key can you get to the storehouse. Did hardhawk tell you what's there?

DONDEP: yes, he did.

RAVENMAJI: Hardhawk has passed judgment on you?

DONDEP: he told CJ, who told me. — Yes, he has a mistaken idea of the plan. — So do a small handful.

RAVENMAJI: Maybe you need to explain it to them again?

DONDEP: But, I don't trust spilling every single detail; the goal is, after all, to bring this story to light. — No, the majority understand.

RAVENMAJI: Are only the Americans bauking?

DONDEP: And are helping. No, Pony is in [location redacted] she is helping

DONDEP: Kiwi Cocky is [location redacted].

RAVENMAJI: I mean are the Americans the only ones bauking?? Any foreigners bauking?

DONDEP: She has become so hostile she doesn't want anything she has said to be used for anything. The ones balking are americans.

There is a concern that they have that to do anything might endanger Dan. So they don't want to really do anything substantive; they mean well, but appear to be more naive than the rest of us thought,

RAVENMAJI: Hardhawk told me you were going to p/c??

DONDEP: That's another thing. I had asked him not to be blurting that out. The plan has to change according to what is being done by the Canadians. I have an all-day interview with them on Tuesday.

RAVENMAJI: Canadian press?

DONDEP: (no, officials) My initial discussions with the GLobe and Mail have abruptly stopped. Probably because any single source would be stopped cold.

RAVENMAJI: Sounds like a poker game.

DONDEP: So, as indicated earlier, every press institiuion in Canada, and the PMs office, and the Premier's office, and the U.S. Congress, etc., AND the staffers

RAVENMAJI: Why don't you bring them to the storehouse.

DONDEP: will get copies of the press release; included in each package will be select docs from the story could I?

RAVENMAJI: You could show them the original press plates for eagles...no author would willingly leave those.

DONDEP: bring the press to the storehouse??

RAVENMAJI: They are in the storehouse. They would enable you to have the power to reprint the whole damn book. No author would EVER leave a press plate.

DONDEP: I anticipated this actually; only when they are all under the impression that everybody is getting this, will they do something.

RAVENMAJI: The press will know that.

DONDEP: True. So, I can drive anywhere in Canada after Tuesday.

RAVENMAJI: BJ guarded those damn things like a friggin viper.

DONDEP: Yes, so what do you suggest we can do? (by the way, if I or CJ is not online, please contact BOOMERANG or PAGEMARKER)

RAVENMAJI: Let me call my source and find out what the timeframe is for me to get the keys and access numbers to mail to you. The storehouse is in Ontario, Kitchener.

DONDEP: got it.

RAVENMAJI: Not cracka?

DONDEP: yes, Cracka first —CJ as we call him now

RAVENMAJI: CJ = cracka ok stupid me.

RAVENMAJI: Hold on I need to make a call.

DONDEP: the rest spend hours talking about the weather and raising kids and social stuff

RAVENMAJI: OK he tells me that I will be able to get the keys and instructions mailed to you during the last week of March-First week of April time frame. You will have exactly until the end of April to get this stuff out of the storehouse or it will be lost forever. Where to mail it?

DONDEP: same address: …………………….

RAVENMAJI: Gotcha

DONDEP: (those are zeroes, BTW, in the postal code)

RAVENMAJI: I heard that the press plates weight about 75 pouns plus there are at least 3-4 boxes of books there too- weighing about 75 pounds each.

RAVENMAJI: OK

DONDEP: So, there will be not only the address, but instructions on how to get in and out. No guards?

RAVENMAJI: It is guarded with a security gate, but I am having you mailed the key for the storage unit, the key card for the gate and the code. You won't need to talk to anyone. Just enter. The press would have a field day with that. Like opening a tomb. —The guys that are supposed to have it cleaned out are on contract only so, they will simply screw up and leave it there.

DONDEP: Also, we have had no 'public' falling out, but the core group is working hard. If anyone approaches you, they should be the ones I said; otherwise, best not to divulge too much. So, if I had a reporter or 2 with me, the press would recognize the importance of this?

DONDEP: Or could I simply produce them at a more appropriate and convenient place?

RAVENMAJI: yes they should. No author would leave her plates.

DONDEP: Whose property are they, technically? The authors, which include Dan, right?

RAVENMAJI: I thought of the shock value of saying to them- this was BJ's long lost storage unit--wonder what's in it?

DONDEP: [laughs]

RAVENMAJI: Hold on for a minute. I have a call.

DONDEP: so, it would be better to have evidence of the plates where they are now? Better than showing up with them in the City Square?

RAVENMAJI: yes I think so- like taking them to a secret site to open a secret area. When you are done with getting the shit out, be careful not to leave the lock on it. If you do, because the unit

DONDEP: okay, this is obviously a public-storage facility.... take the lock with me, as it should stand empty.

RAVENMAJI: is getting close to being shut down by the company, any old rep of the company wandering around might start asking you questions. But if you leave it unlocked and open they will just assume you have abandoned your own storage unit and leave you alone.— Right

DONDEP: roger. would just hate to be arrested for petty thievery! (although not so petty)

RAVENMAJI: MJ stores most of everything in public stroage facilities around US and Can. No, not petty.

DONDEP: "hiding in plain sight"..... I should have guessed. So, will the keys etc be sent shortly?

RAVENMAJI: Remember that once you have the keys, waiting after April, and it's lost. The keys will be mailed either the last week of March or the first week of April.

DONDEP: no, will go there anytime after Tuesday — Is Dan still maintaining his weekly mirage schedule then?

RAVENMAJI: Yes he is. Hardhawk said that the op was going Mon.

DONDEP: Harry had promised when we first learned that he would go there. — okay, we will trust Harry then.

RAVENMAJI: I will make sure the keys are mailed by the fasted method possible. It's Harry that's going?

DONDEP: Yes. I had started talking to someone new tho —because Harry was to have gone weeks ago.

RAVENMAJI: ok

DONDEP: but, now that you talked to him, maybe he will go.

RAVENMAJI: Is he going to approach Dan?

DONDEP: NO. It is just the recon; if all goes well, we want to arrange to have a subpoena

RAVENMAJI: Subpoena to wait then?

DONDEP: ready to present Dan with.

RAVENMAJI: ok
RAVENMAJI: That's the phony one right?

DONDEP: phony what? subpoena? the one for the actor-lawyer?

RAVENMAJI: yea?? Or a real one?

DONDEP: whatever we can manage to get served; do NOT want to have the whole thing blow up in our face by impersonating a lawyer

RAVENMAJI: MJ might track the phony anyway...yea..

DONDEP: so, am trying to get a real U.S. lawyer that has the balls.

RAVENMAJI: What's the reason or charge or???

DONDEP: I shouldn't be surprised how intimidated so many people are by this story.

RAVENMAJI: Only Burisch's story makes people this scared.

DONDEP: That's what we are trying to word correctly. Which is why we need a real lawyer that doesn't rush away when he hears about it. — Yes, this story is so large and complex; it has to be done correctly

RAVENMAJI: The lawyer only needs to go as far as a deposition, not court. If he knows that..............

DONDEP: especially because some feel that we would be doing the bidding of the 'rogues'

RAVENMAJI: Then hardhawk court maybe hook you up with Congress.

DONDEP: [laughs]

RAVENMAJI: I think Dan said it best: "An angel walks in front of me right now, not to worry."

DONDEP: I can get a congressional staffer or 2 to help if necessary

RAVENMAJI: right — Oh shit oh shit oh shit! My friend is sending the first photo to me.[hold on]

DONDEP: I read that! yes, the subpoena usually has to come after the fact of a charge

RAVENMAJI: It's the bitch Deb. My guy doesn't have the Dan ones done yet. So maybe have to wait a day or so. Here comes deb.

DONDEP: ok, says I can't receive it!

RAVENMAJI: shit — stand by try again

DONDEP: I'll disable firewall — go ahead

RAVENMAJI: ok i'll wait

DONDEP: i'm ready — shit, still says i am unable. are you behind a firewall?

RAVENMAJI: wtf? — Okay- hold and I'll get a briefcase

DONDEP: great.

RAVENMAJI: fucking yahoo.

DONDEP: yes, we bitch all the time about it. — Some q's from the core group (we're in conference): who murdered Dr Kelly? Is Sir Nicholas Lyell involved? know anything about the Nasa announcement on Monday? anything about incoming comets? Does Dan know Bill is maji now?

RAVENMAJI: hold on and in just asec —ok get the pic my name- ravenmaji with a [Ed. redacted] — Let me know when you have it.

DONDEP: gettin it now— okay, got (small pic; this is the famous "bitch" Deb??)

RAVENMAJI: That is her!
RAVENMAJI: Dressed trendy and looking like the fucking cobra she is!

DONDEP: short hair, can't see face..... but yes, dressed like a cobra!

RAVENMAJI: She even wears MIB glasses.

DONDEP: [laughs]

RAVENMAJI: Really!

DONDEP: what exactly ARE they?

RAVENMAJI: She wears those damn raybands. That is what she looks like most of the time. She only dresses down at the mountain.

DONDEP: so, the q's.... are [Ed. name redacted] and [Ed. name redacted] in on this maji plot? is Kerry gonna be installed? etc

RAVENMAJI: ok

DONDEP: (but many q's about Nasa and the comet)

RAVENMAJI: My source tells me that Xxxxx and Xxxxxxx were both there but they acted as Bill's security.
RAVENMAJI: ………………………………………………..

DONDEP: okay; but is Dan aware that Bill may have been 'turned' by the maj?
DONDEP: oh, that is …………….. then.

RAVENMAJI: …………………………..
RAVENMAJI: ………………………….
RAVENMAJI: ……………………………………….sp?
RAVENMAJI: I have a list standby

DONDEP: (got ……………';s spelling)

RAVENMAJI: It's here somewhere.
RAVENMAJI: …………………………………………………………………………….
RAVENMAJI: …………………………………………

DONDEP: really????

RAVENMAJI: ………………………………………………………………………………

DONDEP: ……………………………………….

RAVENMAJI: ………………………………………………………………………………
RAVENMAJI: Yep!
RAVENMAJI: ………………………………………………………………………………

DONDEP: I'm sure he's got it against me; had sent him a nasty email back during the Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

RAVENMAJI: 2 from each branch
RAVENMAJI: It was hooked to the sheet damn, standby

DONDEP: from each branch of the service? BTW, this [Ed. name redacted] ..... what does the [Ed. initial redacted] stand for?

DONDEP: we have one in the [Ed. redacted] Service

RAVENMAJI: link sb
RAVENMAJI: no no standby

DONDEP: (sure that is …………………….) and the scientists; ……………………….? also, are these all in quotation marks, or can we publish? standing by sir.....if standing by means keeping quiet, please say.

RAVENMAJI: that's what I meant sorry...late for em.
RAVENMAJI: me
RAVENMAJI: Publish away.

DONDEP: great! what about?

RAVENMAJI: Xxxxx
RAVENMAJI: standby for a link I am trying to get.
RAVENMAJI: http://www [Ed. redacted]
RAVENMAJI:

DONDEP: (this is the [Ed. name redacted] guy right?)

RAVENMAJI: Take a look.

DONDEP: yep! great! thanks immensely! (that will not be published on the thread....just yet) now what about the rest of the 12?

RAVENMAJI: Hold on I am trying to find the names.

DONDEP: is ………………… both maj and illume? are there illumes among the 12? okay, waiting patiently...

RAVENMAJI: Yes ………………… is both. I can't find the damn sheet. The ……… that I know for sure is the bean box that Dan is in. The scientists ……………………………………………………………….

DONDEP: so of the 12, Dan himself is one?

RAVENMAJI: that are assigned withing MJ are assigned under one of the 6 scientific members, for oversight...no no way...he is under …………………………..

RAVENMAJI: …………………………………………………………….. is one of the xxxx reps.

DONDEP: okay. how about Army, Air Force? any other scientists? and is the 12 defunct, or is the CotM defunct?

RAVENMAJI: The other ……………………………………………………………………….
…………………………………………………………………………….

DONDEP: So what happened re the rancher memo??

RAVENMAJI: ………………………………………………………………………………………………..

DONDEP: I thought Dan was being taken out from under MJ auth, and put under CotM authority.

RAVENMAJI: He was then the Cotm split up.

DONDEP: okay, so something happened after May 18 last year.

RAVENMAJI: so he got shoved back with the 12.

DONDEP: and what caused the fallout?

RAVENMAJI: 1/2 wanted disclosure and the other half not.

DONDEP: so how do the Brits figure in this? this is shocking; that there are Brits on MJ12.

RAVENMAJI: Real public disclosure, not the approved shirade going on at the X-Cofn
RAVENMAJI: They are just there. I don't know the politics of that.

DONDEP: So, there is to be some kind of "charade" then at the X-Conf?

RAVENMAJI: The whole thing is. It is being orchestrated by one of the best aviary people in the
business- …………………………………………………..

DONDEP: who is ……………………..?

RAVENMAJI: ……………………………………............
RAVENMAJI: Mr. …………

DONDEP: aHAH!

RAVENMAJI: Xxxxx Xxxxx is his footman.

DONDEP: so, he has known all along then?

RAVENMAJI: ………………….. is a shill. In exchange he gets his popularity and private moneys.

DONDEP: Did you know I met Xxxxxxx 2 years ago, and volunteered to help his campaign for Congress? jesus... So, …………….wags the Xxxxxxx tail....

RAVENMAJI: ……………………………. doesn't have the guts to disclose anything. Not for real. They know that so they are using him to their own ends that they can set. Nice image

DONDEP: image?

RAVENMAJI: To NASA ……………………………………………………………
RAVENMAJI: Wagging the tail.

DONDEP: So what is supposed to happen at X-Conf?

RAVENMAJI: or more like- the TALE.
RAVENMAJI: It's called a good get together, a way for the ops to see who wants involved, and the rest is a mutual masturbation session.

DONDEP: So some kind of pseudo-disclosure is to happen then?

RAVENMAJI: No way.

DONDEP: the 'mutual masturbation' session I am familiar with; the usual at ufer conferences

RAVENMAJI: If disclosure was going to happen they wouldn't pick Bassett or his ufo freaks to do it. The government would figure a way to make money off it. They'd do it themselves.

DONDEP: Booms asks: Is Steven Greer in with the group control?

RAVENMAJI: No Steve Greer is an honest guy. He is being watched VERRRRRRY closely because he has had too

DONDEP: (maybe you should just join the conf now; only CJ, Boomer, and PageMarker there
DONDEP: Greer has had too......?

RAVENMAJI: many people talk to him. But notice what happened? Nothing! The news conference came, went, nothing!

DONDEP: I know, I was there; christ I helped set up tables...

RAVENMAJI: They are going?

DONDEP: they are here now in conference. –– Yahoo conference

RAVENMAJI: Oh I thought to X-Conf

DONDEP: (sorry! not X-Conf! )

RAVENMAJI: I would like to make a bet what is going to happen there?

DONDEP: I wouldn't bet against you!

RAVENMAJI: Watch how little Dr. Dan is publicized. Remember: no real disclosure.

RAVENMAJI: I am afraid it is up to you and your group.

DONDEP: and you are our only hope to make sure we do it right.

RAVENMAJI: God is.

DONDEP: can you join us in conference? I can send the invite

RAVENMAJI: Sure! But hold on for a minute- send the invite tho.

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