KIWI COCKY: hello again
GAIASLOTUS: Hi
RAVEN: has joined the conference.
DONDEP: hold on
DONDEP: okay, here's Raven guyz
RAVEN: Hello, Raven here!
GAIASLOTUS: Hello
KIWI COCKY: hello Raven
DONDEP: Can you all ask him any q's ?
RAVEN: [smiles]
torch4truth:hi raven
PAGEMARKER: hello raven..
RAVEN: HI HI HI HI! [big smile]
DONDEP: I was just telling him why we are
not sure of tonight's chat with Dan –– come on folks,
he doesn't have much time.
GAIASLOTUS: Good
RAVEN: You
are right too- he could figure it out.
PAGEMARKER: don, it
is risky given your immigration status
KIWI COCKY: sorry - just a bit slow down here
RAVEN: I
was just trying anything that could help.
GAIASLOTUS: Yes, our
q's are not top level
KIWI COCKY: are these
Q's for Dan or fro Raven?
GAIASLOTUS: TY
PAGEMARKER: when is
Dr Dans surgery??
DONDEP: now they are for Raven, and then about Dan
RAVEN: Dan
is scheduled for a small procedure on March 26, then he is tentatively
scheduled
DONDEP: I told Raven about the upcoming press conference, how this
might jeopardize my situation
RAVEN: for
major surgery in April.
DONDEP: next q?
PAGEMARKER: oh
no, can they just do a transplant?
RAVEN: How
tonight might you mean?
GAIASLOTUS: Raven what is your
take on the press conference Don is referring to?
RAVEN: His
surgery isn't really about his heart.
DONDEP: (what's it about then?)
torch4truth: yes?
RAVEN: He
is having an implant put in his chest running to some nerve that
should stop his seizures. –– It's called a VNS. ––His
heart cannot be operated on.
DONDEP: is he expected to live much
longer? (assuming he is allowed to)
KIWI COCKY: i wasn't aware he
had seizures
RAVEN: I have no take
on the press conference...
DONDEP: or is it terminal?
RAVEN: His heart is,
except a heart transplant.
torch4truth: will he be able
to make it through the surg, given his heart cond
RAVEN: That's a real
question abuzz everywhere. The reason
DONDEP: what about the pics
of Dan in the hospital last year, after the attack...
would it be bad to use them?
DONDEP: (sorry Raven, go on....)
RAVEN: is that the
nerve goes to his heart and is supposed to go toward
his Pagemarker, but everyone has heard that the surgery
offers the possibility of his heart stopping.
KIWI COCKY: [sad face]
RAVEN: I don't know
whether Dan wants tham used or not, but if you want
to make a case, shock value is impressive.
DONDEP: that answers that
RAVEN: We heard that
he had a 1/1000 chance of it stopping with a normal
heart, but his heart is anything but normal.
DONDEP: so, his chances are
better?
RAVEN: He has 2 cardiologists,
a neurologist and a neurosurgeon plus the electronics
company looking at him. His chances are worse. But
his seizures are coming while he is sleeping and
they risk stopping his breathing. So he has little
choice here.
torch4truth: catch 22
DONDEP: what we were afraid
of. time is short. he still sleeps under his desk?
KIWI COCKY: poor poor man
PAGEMARKER: our prayers are
with him
RAVEN: Last I heard,
yea. –– His teams has been reduced to
5.
PAGEMARKER: how is his Lotus
Model progress going?
RAVEN: But he hasn't
changed his schedule.
DONDEP: so what's the situation
with J and the "other" faction?
RAVEN: My friend told
me that Dan received the final report on the class
c particles yesterday and the tones.
DONDEP: Is there 'peace' or
was that just bullshit to cool our jets?
DONDEP:< what did it say? –– are
the tones still C4? 261.63 Mhz?
RAVEN: I don't have
the foggiest sorry. Wednesday they are going to do
something called "staging." Where his new
cells that were made in the Spallanzani tests are
ordered and classified.
PAGEMARKER: BJ has been busy
i see...
RAVEN: The issue of "peace" with
the forum is BS,.
GAIASLOTUS: DO you know
If this A.Number poster on the board is for real?
Was Dan really shown the bad postings?
RAVEN: That was all
psyop.
GAIASLOTUS: TY
DONDEP: we figured. "Take
your ball and go home"...
RAVEN: My friend told
me that security 61 showed it to him.
torch4truth: and do you know his
reaction? –– if any
RAVEN: He is the head
of the local security unit and is a real bastard.
DONDEP: Is Rancher aware of
the thread? 61 is an "Information Filter",
according to Dan
RAVEN: My friend told
me that he was really upset about something that was
said about the angels, but that is all I know. –– I
am sure that Rancher's people are aware.
DONDEP: we are asking questions.
Can you please please get word to Dan that the
core group sends its love..... that not to be down
from the occasional nastiness
RAVEN: Have you had
the chance to spy Dan out at the Mirage yet?
DONDEP: [shhhhhh]
RAVEN: I will press
my friend to send a message in to him.
DONDEP: today is, er, tuesday,
no? –– thanks.
RAVEN: My question
Don is are you saying that tonight's try would have
made you a problem with the press conference?
DONDEP: perhaps... –– the
F5 warning I take seriously .
RAVEN: Ok then don't
risk the case or your ass. (anymore than you already
are)
DONDEP: But, if its all bullshit,
then perhaps this quorum here can advise?
RAVEN: What's all bullshit?
DONDEP: but it is very delicate
at this stage....(bullshit, as in Js threat) ––or
that bulletin warning about me. the F5.
RAVEN: He won't hurt
anyone.
DONDEP: no, not physically
RAVEN: They operate,
unless you know something VERY important,
DONDEP:but could make life
extremely miserable, knowing how the information
COULD be put together
RAVEN: like monkeys
throwing leaves into the air- most run away.
DONDEP: who? the people issuing
the threats? or the
ones so warned?
RAVEN: Problem is if
they do then that is evidence against them too.
DONDEP: yep, which is why
certain "absences" will be just as important
as "evidences"
RAVEN: Yes. To people
like this group they work by fear. –– To
microbiologists that could pose a threat to the plans,
the work other ways.
DONDEP: inciting fear, you
mean. so, the monkeys throwing leaves are....they?
or people they threaten?
RAVEN: they work otherways. –– They
make a big noise and people run away in fear.
DONDEP: they had many of those
micro b's killed then, right?
RAVEN: They are experts
at it. –– I am sure.
PAGEMARKER: what are their
plans with Dr Dan's research?
KIWI COCKY: do you know anything
about all the other dead microbiologists then Raven?
RAVEN: Dan knew Kiley.
DONDEP: Kelley you mean?
DONDEP: David?
RAVEN: The one that
just passed. Depending
DONDEP: the subject of the
Hutton inquiry
RAVEN: on which group
you speak to (illumes or Maji), they have different
plans.
DONDEP: please tell us about
that.
RAVEN: That's Kelly. –– I
am not sure if Dan had met him. –– Kelly
pulled his own strings by playing both sides of the
street. Illumes and Maji.
DONDEP: these Illumes and
Maji..... we are really trying to get a handle on
that, because when this conference takes place, we
need to know so the info isn't mangled
Torch4Truth: what then was the
connection between Kelly and Dr Dan
RAVEN: Bavarian Illuminati
or Committee's coming from the original MJ12.
RAVEN: Just that simple.
PAGEMARKER: where does Severs
fit in?
RAVEN: Illuminati that
was part of the Committee of the Majority. They has
kind of like an exchange program on for years, where
Illuminists were members of the Committee (a Maji
organization) and Maji exchanged in meetings in Europe
with the Illuminists.
RAVEN: Peace through
detante.
DONDEP: what is the nature
of the "war" between them then? Thought
we were big alllies with the euros
RAVEN: Nicky tried
to recruit Dan years ago and tried again, recently.
GAIASLOTUS: How recently?
RAVEN: Governments
maybe, but not secret societies. They have had
this world divied up for years.
RAVEN: The Prize. –– The
recruitment blew up in their faces.
DONDEP: why?
RAVEN: Dan knew who was
behind it because they made a mistake with the secret
society they had picked to do the nom.
RAVEN: Dan is an expert
in patterns.
DONDEP: [smiles]
RAVEN: They use a Maltese
Cross and a Crown. That was a mistake because they
gave themselves away with that.
DONDEP: what's the problem
with that symbolism?
RAVEN: Dan reported
to the 12 (this is just before I had to really run
away), that The Maltese Cross, the Knights of Malta
would never use a Templar crown covering it, unless
they were Illuminists, because the Knights of Malta
that were really only a splinter unnamed group (not
the Knights now)
PAGEMARKER:Maji goals and
intentions must be different from the Illuminatis
or Dan would not work for either. What are the Maji
goals that Dr Dan supports?
RAVEN: were involved
with the Pope to turn him against the Templars. The
Templars
were Illuminists. This symbolism told him that the Crown of the Templars
was being placed on top of the Malta Knights in an attempt to take
back their rightful place.
RAVEN: The only goal I am aware
of is that the Maji support a successful conclusion to this
time period where we sucessfully go through 2012 without destruction.
RAVEN: I know Dan supports
that.
BEN: do u see an significance
with todays announcement about water on Mars and
whats coming for the xconf?
RAVEN: Frankly, the
water on Mars issue is no annoucement to the community
I am from.
BEN: Is Dan going to xconf?
DONDEP:The Templars were Illuminists??
But the Pope committed near-genocide to get rid of
them. Just what is their agenda then?
RAVEN: It could play
as a booster for the xconference...They won't let
him go there.
It's too uncontrolled. It's fine if an operative or two goes and
does their thing to spoon feed, but not someone like Dan.
DONDEP: So what is the Illuminist agenda
then?
torch4truth:his health prob would not
allow it
BEN: But Bill is telling his story
RAVEN: yes, the Templars were
illuminists.
BEN: about JROD
RAVEN: That's my point I just
made... operatives.
RAVEN: There's one thing
when someone speaks about another then there is quite
another thing when you could put a biologist among
biologists that can build cells from basically nothing. –– That's
dangerous.
KIWI COCKY: controlled release
of info
DONDEP: (yes, we knew Dan would
never be allowed out to X conf...)
RAVEN: The goal of
the Illuminists is to take over the world, with Lucifer
in charge.
DONDEP: Raven, this is Juniper
Sage
RAVEN: Hello.
DONDEP: (Harrdrawk's wife)
RAVEN: [smiles]
JUNIPER SAGE: hello Raven
and all
DONDEP: go on please...
RAVEN: Wish
he could win, Juniper Sage but the fix is in.
DONDEP: Why do they want Lucifer
in charge, and what does that mean in real terms?
RAVEN: stand by
JUNIPER SAGE:
BEN: are they bringing Revelations
JUNIPER SAGE: has anyone asked
about the scheduling for the surgery?
torch4truth: yes
torch4truth: not for the heart –– but
for the seizures
RAVEN: They want Lucifer
in charge, meaning that his spirit would rule the
world and that would mean that all well doers like
us wouldn't be around anymore.
JUNIPER SAGE: I knew tha
RAVEN: I get the very
strong feeling that we are in the end times anyway.
DONDEP: so is "God" in
charge now?
DONDEP: yes, you must be aware
of other beanbox info, re the incoming celestial
bodies, events
RAVEN: God has His
place in this world. But their vision would eliminate
that.
DONDEP: in real terms, they
would simply massacre people that did good?
RAVEN: I know about
Antarctica.
RAVEN: Yes.
KIWI COCKY: so Maji don't
agree with that view Raven?
DONDEP: what about Antartica
BEN: Their vision to get us
under a New World Order?
RAVEN: The Russian
report about a vortex was real. –– The
Northern and southern stargates are beginning to
activate.
DONDEP: at the poles?
RAVEN: Yes, they were pushed over the edge a little early
because of the activity on the sun?
GAIASLOTUS: What does that mean for
earth changes?
RAVEN: I don't know.
RAVEN: Yes, a NWO.
KIWI COCKY: (Maji don't want
Lucifer in charge?)
RAVEN: No.
PAGEMARKER: Incoming celestial
bodies and events??
RAVEN: They are breakoff
masons.
BEN: Speaking of Anartarctica
is it Nazi
RAVEN: A group down
there is from Dulce so I guess your answer is yes.
DONDEP: yes to what?
BEN: so they are watching
for incoming...comets?
KIWI COCKY: what do they hope
to achieve by being in Antartica?
RAVEN: Yes Nazi. The
paperclip 'descendents' work at Dulce.
DONDEP: (sorry, we have lots
of questions; will try to be patient while you answer)
RAVEN: I heard they
are trying to test the level needed to activate the
stargates. They want to know the minumum energies.
BEN: what about the two comets
coming in?
RAVEN: (Can you think
like an illuminist? They want to keep certain manmade
units that would work under less energy.)
KIWI COCKY: so they can apply
the minimum energies to a man-made SG?
RAVEN: I guess they
will pass us.
RAVEN: That's what
they are trying to figure out.
torch4truth: so what exactly
is the star wars program protecting us from if our
probs arise from the planets people
RAVEN: Nothing.
JUNIPER SAGE:< Isn't it dangerous
for anyone to artificially activate a stargate?
BEN: lets talk about what
we can do about it
RAVEN: I think so.
PAGEMARKER:electromagnetic
changes are causing time/space distortions?
torch4truth: so it must be their
way of total planetary control
RAVEN: Yes they are.
Plus the rogues are still playing in the past.
RAVEN: It is.
torch4truth:TY
DONDEP: rogues are playing
in the past?
KIWI COCKY: to do with the
neuro problem?
RAVEN: Yes. Some people
are starting to see it, like that one about the 13th
amendment.
BEN: They want things (and
us) to remain as we are? Until the very last minute?
RAVEN: They are making
changes that seem like little things, until the little
things build up. Like a frog on a warming pan.
DONDEP: good point ben; are
they planning on keeping everyone ignorant until
it's too late? even the maji?
RAVEN: Dan I heard
has soleved the neuro problem.
BEN: Where is the love?
PAGEMARKER: this is important
info you have given us Mr Maji, are you against an
edited release?
BEN: They hate love, cuase
they don't know love
RAVEN: I am not against
any release.
DONDEP: How did he solve the
neuro problem?
DONDEP: good....we will edit
the username tho, for your own safety.
RAVEN: The buzz is
that Dan's protocells that were made in the Spallanzani
tests underwent some kind of changes. The cells are
JRod cells. ––Some became nerve cells.
Dan won't talk openly to even J about it yet. The
only three that know for sure is Dan Deb BJ. –– And
I am not sure if all three.
DONDEP: (Is Deb really an
Illume double-agent?)
RAVEN: I think so.
BEN: what are your plans for
survival...or????
RAVEN: The word was
that Dan examined the slides from the experiments-
survival? I just keep moving and rerouting these
conversations. I have money.
DONDEP: also, to get back
to the question earlier; are the maji also intending
on with-holding the truth as well, until the last
minute, in hopes we can avoid the Catastrophe?
RAVEN: When Dan exmained
the slides he stopped and backed away from the microscope
and broke out into
BEN: So Dan won't have his
day this summer when he gets to not give them what
they expect?
RAVEN: a sweat. Security
came to him and asked him if he was ok. He grabebd
and hugged the security officer and said "yes
I am great I see synapses'.
DONDEP: when did this happen?
RAVEN: Last week.
PAGEMARKER: Perhaps Dr Dan
felt he was able to repay for what he himself had
received.
RAVEN: He was crying
and laughing and giggling. Then staar came in and
pulled all audio out of his apartment. The video
is now just one b/w to record the angel that's
all.
DONDEP: (who IS Staar, anyway?
took away his Rawk???)
RAVEN: I don't know
what the Maji want to do or when they are deciding
to release what. –– It was a team that
used to deal with crashes. Now it has become the
apple of the Maji's eye as the major security service
over all things et.
DONDEP: and whatever happened
with the craft from the crashes?
BEN: Oh I think they sent
us a major hint today
RAVEN: Some are at
s4, others are in NM. –– NM has the original
Roswell two. –– The one that was flown
to wrightpat and the other was secured at the 509th
then later taken to wright pat and back to NM.
DONDEP: are they from the
same ones that tempted the original maji, or from
the 'rogues'?
BEN: So are we in for major
Earth changes before we are to know about JRODS?
RAVEN: They were from
an earlier time in our history before the fragment
and the rogues.. You know about them now.
DONDEP: "the fragment"... what
is that?
RAVEN: The racial fragmenting
that happening amongst the jrods.
GAIASLOTUS: ?
PAGEMARKER: they will no longer
exist in our time frame?
RAVEN: The rogues came
as almost a political party like the nazi's.
Dan has said that if the time passes at the rift and we go beyond
it without catastrophe, then all the timelines will collapse into
one and the jrods will instantly be shifted in their timeline to
our present time. –– Instead of changes happening to
us, changes will be "on them." Karma.
GAIASLOTUS: Is this what they want to
happen?
RAVEN: Which they? Maji: yes.–– Illumes:
no.
GAIASLOTUS: That they are
shifted into our time
DONDEP: and what kind of
changes?
RAVEN: It won't be
as easy to come here anymore. They can apply faster
than light travel but that uses fuel.
The funny thing about time travel is that the longer the travel is
away the easier it is. –– It is much easier to travel
10,000 years into the past than it is 10 hours.
JUNIPER SAGE: 'wrinkles
in time'?
BEN: So they are to try
to overt the disaster just to lead us into the
end of this paradox?
torch4truth: because of the
variables in technology the closer to our time?
RAVEN: Yes they are
trying to prevent it to lead us out of the paradox.
DONDEP: but if we get out
of the paradox, we will have to share earth with
many J-rods?
RAVEN: I don't think
it's that. I think from what I heard from OS there
at Sunchase some time ago that
BEN: so they (us in the future)
have a future?
RAVEN: it is like the
enzyme that allows your lungs to expand. The more
they expand the easier it is for them to expand.
Actually less Don, because it will be hard as hell for them to get
here. Instead of a time blink away they will be 1500 light years.
DONDEP:< from Zeta Reticuli?
RAVEN: Yea.
BEN: So how much TIME do you think we
have and how shall we spend it?
RAVEN: Yes, we would
both have a future they would not cease to exist.
torch4truth: and the cycle begins
anew
RAVEN: On 12 21 12
it does.
DONDEP: any possibility they
are NOT a version of humanity in the future? That
this whole thing about them being us is really a
scam on us?
RAVEN: And then they
are? Not real?
RAVEN: I hope so.
DONDEP: no, just another ET
race.
RAVEN: Then why is
the power of the secret societies backed up by the
most powerful govs in the world working toward this
end?
DONDEP: We just haven't learned
enough about how they came to be here, why allowed....yes,
why? good question.
RAVEN: If the idea
was to accept them then I would say maybe, but the
idea is actually to divorce them.
DONDEP: Are there ETs that
control, run, manipulate these secret societies?
RAVEN: The Illumes
yes there are.
BEN: Are they demons?
GAIASLOTUS: Can they really
take on a human appearence?
RAVEN: Dan and others
had it right when they said they are like Nazi's
and no one would say that Nazi's are on God's side,
except Nazi's.
DONDEP: not just J-rods, correct?
humanoid? what about "reptilian"?
RAVEN: Could the rogues
be possessed, yes they could be.
RAVEN: They do, somewhat
human anyway.
GAIASLOTUS: TY
PAGEMARKER: Are the ancient
manmade stargates an equilizing force against catastrophe?
RAVEN: I have never
heard anything about the reptilian stuff except that
when people are abducted by
RAVEN: the rogues,
sometimes they use mind games to keep people in fear
of them. Like beating a child and saying if you say
anything I will beat you again.
RAVEN: The ancient
manmade stargates will destroy us if what I heard
is right.
BEN: how are we not suppose
to miss 10 million people who are abducted?
RAVEN: The buz is they
almost have all known ones. The same way we don't
miss the ones that are abducted now.
BEN: Let's talk about hybrids
DONDEP: how would those sg's
destroy us though? Why were they built in the first
place, and by who?
RAVEN: yuck
RAVEN: They were first
built in Sumer.
DONDEP: In our history? (present
time-line, that is)
PAGEMARKER: I was thinking
of Giza etc...
RAVEN: The technology was handed
down by the gods (meaning us from the future) to
help the human
RAVEN: race develop stargate technology earlier so that we could
help them solve their problems, in the future, much earlier.
RAVEN: The Giza culture is much older than the archaeologists know.
BEN: so that is what we are
here for?
RAVEN: It was also
from the lead of the humans from the future.
BEN:you said gods
RAVEN: That's how the
people from that time looked at them- with the technology
of the future, as gods.
RAVEN: Haven't you
seen the jrod on the egyptian wall?
BEN: ohh I understand, but
what do you know of the one true real god?
PAGEMARKER:I have seen strange
images, I am uncertain of Ashkaic records etc
RAVEN: He's my God.
I am a Christian and believe in Jesus Christ.
DONDEP: So Giza was built
by another race from off-planet?
RAVEN: There
is actually a jrod on an ancient egyptian wall. Want
me to find a link for you?
BEN: yes not confusing to
us that know
DONDEP: prior to 10,000BC?
GAIASLOTUS: yes
DONDEP: yes
PAGEMARKER: howard would have
that, it is not needed now
BEN: why not?
DONDEP: (we would like it,
Pagemarker)
BEN: me too
RAVEN: ok
hold on. Giza was built by humans under the control
of future humans. The pyramids symbolize 1/2 of a
octa-hedron.
RAVEN: hold on
torch4truth: we knew that –– have studied that stuff
for yrs, thank you for the confirmation
PAGEMARKER: things appear to be coming
together a bit
DONDEP: perhaps you knew,
Torch... I had only suspicions.
torch4truth: excitedly said,
not to sound like a know-it-all
BEN: yes me too –– must
get everything we can t4t
PAGEMARKER: are those ashkaic
records there and true or not?
DONDEP: akashic, brian
PAGEMARKER: that's Pagemarker...
DONDEP:
torch4truth: right ben
torch4truth: sorry don
PAGEMARKER: see.... delays
for a link??
DONDEP: no prob torch...sorry from me toov
RAVEN: Here you go-
RAVEN: http://www.catchpenny.org/alien.html
BEN: What can we do to prepare our love ones
for what is to come?
DONDEP: thank you.
GAIASLOTUS: TY
PAGEMARKER:
yes, thank you
JUNIPER SAGE: I have just
been reading about it myself lately....thank you
for the link maybe it will simplify things
RAVEN: Physically, nothing really. If it
works out, everything is fine. If not, chances are you won't survive
so don't buy into the survivalist thing.
DONDEP: so, the gods of Sumer are from our future; they invented
the SGs in a future timeline?
RAVEN: Spiritually, get right
with God.
RAVEN: Yes.
DONDEP: and the pyramids... you were explaining there origin
RAVEN: They designed and had
them built.
DONDEP: and their purpose? certainly not as tombs
RAVEN: No they are resurrection
devices, resurrection of the past for the future. I
sent this link to show you how the egyptians symbolised
the jrods as vessels. vessels of knowledge. This is
a debunker site. I like those because they actually
help to find out things.
TORCH 4 TRUTH: like a national
enquirer
DONDEP: what do they resurrect from the past then?
RAVEN: I wondered how the MIB
movies had knowledge of what the rags are called: they
called them "hot sheets." They are really
called that in our society.
KIWI COCKY: i thought we were the vessels
(soul containers)
RAVEN: They are/were trying to resurrect
a future of what they see as their destiny by changing the
past.
TORCH 4 TRUTH: my turn..... –– hidden
in plane sight
RAVEN: That
IS EXACTLY where the symbolism comes from in this
link!
TORCH 4 TRUTH: okay
RAVEN: We
were called vessels. They were looked at as vessels
of knowledge, so the people of the time drew them
as vessels.
KIWI COCKY: ok
PAGEMARKER: What are we getting
in exhange for the Lotus Model?
RAVEN: Ah-
Don are all these people aware of what is happening
on the 15th?
DONDEP: no ––this 15th?
RAVEN: 05
DONDEP: or next year?
RAVEN: next
DONDEP: yes, we all know about next year in bandolier
BEN: this summer
RAVEN: I mean the criss cross.
DONDEP: I think so. –– gang, have you all read that yet?
PAGEMARKER: ??
DONDEP: except for torch who is new
BEN: no
RAVEN: Then I am not answering
that because of "think", not a good thing
to answer.
JUNIPER SAGE: please share
your perspective
DONDEP:(next year, the switcheroo)
BEN:when Dan does not give the plan?
DONDEP: okay, no prob .
RAVEN: On the good side:
I think we will solve the nerve
DONDEP: Ben, you know, but torch does not.
DONDEP: (the reading of the scroll, etc)
RAVEN: damage problem of
the jrods and I think this could be a environmental cleanup
device. –– please please please keep this quiet. –– Not
at a press conf or anything like that.
DONDEP: the environmental cleanup device?
RAVEN: Dan has a
plan. ––He has suggested to bioengineer marine
amoeba with
quartz crystals in them.
DONDEP: [BTW, the chats from your friends and you are kept on a secure
part of one of our sites; team members can read at their leisure]
DONDEP:[please continue...]
RAVEN: Then whatever happens it would be
a natural device under the control of God rather than an unnatural
one making a controlled amount of Ganesh Particles.
RAVEN: That
is what he calls Phase 4.
DONDEP: wow.....no more cases of Blackwater then
RAVEN: hope
not so,––He said that
PAGEMARKER: a new life form is it not?
RAVEN: amoeba
naturally take in mineraldeposits so it would be just the thing
to farm a ton of them to accept a high amount of silicon then
put them back from where they come.
RAVEN: I
guess biologists can adjustwhat they take in by how they are
fed and kept.
BEN: control of evolution?
JUNIPER SAGE: how would the
crystalized amoebas evolve?
PAGEMARKER: my apologies for
the suggestion
JUNIPER SAGE: oops,
sorry Ben
RAVEN: I don't know.
That is what he said but he also said that there were ethical considerations
even in that plan that hadn't been worked out.
BEN: with God?
RAVEN: With
taking something out of the sea, doing something
to it, and putting it back.
RAVEN: I guess
DONDEP: can't he discuss it with his light being?
RAVEN: Dan
is very careful with this stuff. I think
that it has been, but Dan acts very carefully.
He has said more than once that he listens
but maintains his free will to do what he
thinks is right, right between him and God.
BEN: all praise him
DONDEP: so the Light Being is occasionally wrong?
PAGEMARKER: discerning God's will perhaps...
RAVEN: He
told me that the light being instructed him
in sacred principles and showed him possibilities
based on actions. Also showed him what the
original guarden of Eden was but he didn't
elaborate. He stressed to me that it was
Edin, not Eden. He told me that while he
believes what the being tells him, he only
fully trusts God himself.
KIWI COCKY: complex
RAVEN: He
said that he made it clear with the being when
they first spoke that he would never trust
an angel of light on its face, because of the
warnings about that, and that only if the angel
fully reserved his right to free will would
he continue the relationship.
He takes nothing the angel says on face value.
DONDEP: so the angel IS fallible...
RAVEN: I
asked him why and he said that he is too stupid
to discern an illusion. So far, the angel seems
to be speaking the will of God, because it
praises God in certain ancient ways by naming
him in praise with the ancient names. It sings. –– He
has prayed with the angel to God.
KIWI COCKY: "possibilities
based on actions" is the problem - many
different options to take?
RAVEN: Butterfly
effect I guess.
JUNIPER SAGE: Thank
you Dan for the testamony and insight about
the angel.
JUNIPER SAGE: thank Dan,
i mean
RAVEN: yea
I like him.
BEN: oh I think he just
has to always be on his guard about who to trust
RAVEN: I
read something on the forum that was absolutely
wrong.
DONDEP: what was it?
RAVEN: Dan
has never fled from the angel. Others have been
warned away.
DONDEP: (someone said Dan fled from it??)
BEN: the man knows no fear
RAVEN: When the angel frist
appeared Dan was in S4. That's what I think
I read.
DONDEP: hmmm..... probably from one of the ac's that plague us
RAVEN: It
walked in and had 6 bright wings.
DONDEP: can you get us a better picture of it then?
RAVEN: It
stood over 20 feet tall when it appeared. –I
can asked if my friend can get me one.–– None
from S4 though. –– At Dan's res
maybe.
DONDEP: your one friend got one to us; black background and very
amorphous
RAVEN: It
is so bright that the pix go all white.
DONDEP: does it have a face?
RAVEN: So
the fstop has to be almost closed and that's
why the backgrounds are so dark. Dan said it
has 4. Sometimes it looks at him with more than
one at a time.
DONDEP: sounds like from Revelations.....human-type faces? Hair?
JUNIPER SAGE: is that eery?
RAVEN: When
it first appeared at S4 Dan was sitting at
a computer with a machine hooked to it, some
kind of lab device. –– I haven't
seen any pix with hair. One looked like a bird. –– I
know that because it showed that to the screen
before it destroyed the camera.
GAIASLOTUS:Have you
yourself seen the angel?
RAVEN: yes. –– Many
months ago.
JUNIPER SAGE: how did
its presence make you feel?
RAVEN: Honestly,
I felt like I could fall into it like it was
a big fuzzy bear. Then I got a feeling of enormous
power from it and that scared me.
JUNIPER SAGE: why, is
the power frightening?
RAVEN: It
seems kind but sets its limits on people.
GAIASLOTUS:< Amazing,
thank you for sharing that
RAVEN: The
sound that came from it penetrated to me, even
though I was sitting looking at a camera 1
mile away. –– My heart stood still.
DONDEP: penetrated over the mile? –– not through the
camera device?
RAVEN: We
had sound. The sound that came through the
audio speakers did it.
GAIASLOTUS: Do you feel
as though it was aware of your presence looking
at it?
RAVEN: It
knew me.
DONDEP: How do you know?
RAVEN: It
was like my Dad's eyes looking at me through
me. –– It knew everything about
me.
The story from s4 is funny. –– When it walked in to the
lab where Dan was, everyone else had fled from the noise and the
light around it. Security tried to attack it and were suspended in
mid air outside the lab, then dropped on the ground. It walked right
up in back of Dan and Dan just staired straight ahead.
Here is comes! Dan said:"You here to help with the project?"
Then Dan swung around in the chair and looked up at it and smiled.
KIWI COCKY: wow
RAVEN: They
had some kind of conversation. The only thing
that was remembered by everyone is the Angel
screaming "Holy is the Lord God!"
DONDEP: in English?
RAVEN: It broke all the plexiglass
in the entire wing of the facility.
RAVEN: No, in Hebrew, but I can't remember
the words.
KIWI COCKY: why aren't the Illums
scared then?
RAVEN: They are.
PAGEMARKER: God bless you both,
maji.
JUNIPER SAGE: ty, for explaining
it so that the common man can understand, almost visualise
these scenes and concepts.
DONDEP: (was Gus Weiss really
a luciferian then?)
RAVEN: I hope
so, if not I am really scared.
RAVEN: Yes
JUNIPER SAGE: Harry will be very
sad to have missedt his
BEN: Kodoish, Kodoish, Kodoish,
Adonai Saybatoth
RAVEN: Yep!
DONDEP: good going, Ben!
RAVEN: I
rememeber something like Kodoish and Adonai.
BEN: Holy, Holy, Holy Is
The Lord Of Host
BEN: Saybayoth
DONDEP: So how can the human
luciferians carry on like they are when there is
a physical angel of the Lord hanging around Dan?
RAVEN: Guys
and girls I am going to have to go.
JUNIPER SAGE: you witnessed
all this over a camera?!?
GAIASLOTUS: Ty Raven
DONDEP: Raven, can you do
this more often? At least once more?
RAVEN: I
did. The Luciferians have free will too and their
god.
DONDEP: This has been very
helpful.
KIWI COCKY: thank you so
much Raven
RAVEN: Great!
JUNIPER SAGE:Thank you and
God bless you and those helping the Doctor
PAGEMARKER:Thank you so
much Raven.
Yahoo! Messenger: RAVEN
has left the conference.
BEN: thank you for your
heart and soul
PAGEMARKER: wow
DONDEP: whoa.....
GAIASLOTUS: Lots of great
questions answered
DONDEP: man, wait until
we get the part about the angel on the thread....
JUNIPER SAGE: your energy
has warmed us all...
TORCH 4 TRUTH: WOW
DONDEP: Raven's gone, Juniper
Sage
JUNIPER SAGE: ok
<KIWI COCKY:how amazing
TORCH 4 TRUTH: that was amazing....thank you
Don
GAIASLOTUS: Thank you too Don, for inviting
us!
DONDEP: that was amazing. probably better
than a paranoid stilted minute with Dan
JUNIPER SAGE: yes thanks , I am
so glad I finally got home
GAIASLOTUS: YES
DONDEP: hey, we are a team!
PAGEMARKER: yes... i am totally
amazed....
DONDEP: Juniper Sage, I will
send you the whole thing
BEN: have that saying written down on an envelope in front of me
TORCH 4 TRUTH: yes we are
DONDEP: how so, Ben?
DONDEP: that you had it in front of you??
JUNIPER SAGE:< It was the same as a Dan chat...His
energy was here
BEN: was suggested to say in case you feel you are being "Taken" against
your will
DONDEP: for a moment, I almost thought
maybe it WAS Dan!
TORCH 4 TRUTH: I agree Juniper
Sage
GAIASLOTUS: Good way for him
to talk to us without sec noticeing?
DONDEP: lots about the
Maji and Illumes, and the angel
DONDEP: yep!
GAIASLOTUS: Kind of in
the 3rd person
BEN: no it was me, paying attention
DONDEP: He must've just gotten the username
JUNIPER SAGE: It was...I recognise his energies...felt
them earlier today...couldn't miss it tonite
DONDEP: because I told him last
night I would be "J-6"
DONDEP: I'll edit his username to.....what
are we up to now? MJ8? or how about....61!!
GAIASLOTUS: Thats true Don
DONDEP: Number 61
GAIASLOTUS: I am glad he
confirmed that
JUNIPER SAGE: a rose by
any other name is still a rose...
DONDEP: confirmed what?
<KIWI COCKY: is this raven still working for them?
GAIASLOTUS: Who A # was
DONDEP: @->)
DONDEP: whoops....looking for a rose there
TORCH 4 TRUTH: don did you feel any energy shifts
while it was going on
JUNIPER SAGE: @}->)
DONDEP: yes torch –– I
feel alot better, personally, at least
TORCH 4 TRUTH: okayyyyyyyyy..LOL...........
DONDEP: @}->)
PAGEMARKER: the neuro solution
should really be squashed..
DONDEP: yes Pagemarker,
did he say not to spill the beans about that?
JUNIPER SAGE: thank you
Torch for the rose
TORCH 4 TRUTH: @ } ; -
JUNIPER SAGE: aah
PAGEMARKER: whoa... and
look what that Henderson guy did to Dr Dans spirit...
DONDEP: @}>-
KIWI COCKY: yes Pagemarker
JUNIPER SAGE: Don look above
TORCH 4 TRUTH: ; instead of
the minus plus sign
DONDEP: which one?
JUNIPER SAGE: semi colon
then dash
DONDEP: @};+
TORCH 4 TRUTH:
PAGEMARKER: it
is starting to come together as a completed picture so much more
now
JUNIPER SAGE: @ } ; -
BEN: I am going to bed hope you share the neuro thing with me tomorrow,
night all
TORCH 4 TRUTH:right sage
DONDEP: @};+ ok, Ben
PAGEMARKER: nite...
DONDEP: Ben, what time can we confer?
KIWI COCKY: night Ben
GAIASLOTUS: I knowPagemarker, But
he is on his path, I dont think he meant to hurt The Dr.
DONDEP: need to talk
to you importantly on IM
JUNIPER SAGE: g'nite everyone
PAGEMARKER: you only need about 3 edited areas....
TORCH 4 TRUTH: @ } ; -
DONDEP: okay, nite Juniper Sage... hope Harry
has alot of coffee!
TORCH 4 TRUTH: @ } ; -
BEN: 8:30 my time
DONDEP: got it!
GAIASLOTUS: Nite Juniper Sage
DONDEP: am, Ben?
PAGEMARKER: i am way too excited to sleep
now.. he covered so much
TORCH 4 TRUTH:
BEN: no now if you need to
TORCH 4 TRUTH: you go Don!!!!!
JUNIPER SAGE: Harry is working...will check
in tomorrow morning
DONDEP: yes, I need to absorb...
TORCH 4 TRUTH: I do also
KIWI COCKY: night Juniper Sage
TORCH 4 TRUTH: thank you all
JUNIPER SAGE: Don will you send
it to Harry's e-mail please...
BEN: Gos Bless
GAIASLOTUS: Yes thank you, Night All!
DONDEP: I can send right now thru here, Juniper
Sage
JUNIPER SAGE:
TORCH 4 TRUTH: for taking part in such a wonderful
evening
JUNIPER SAGE: okay, thank you
JUNIPER SAGE: i'll hang on everyone is asleep
anyway
BEN: GOD
TORCH 4 TRUTH: we have been blessed
JUNIPER SAGE: yes,very much so
[Ed. Later that evening]
RAVEN: This is Raven. Are you online?
DONDEP: yes
DONDEP: what is our sign
RAVEN: Okay at 9...
RAVEN:
DONDEP: hold on about that....we are worried.
DONDEP: tried to send you a message
RAVEN: at 9 I will come in this way.... go ahead.
DONDEP: but forgot the wink in the thread
RAVEN: go ahead
DONDEP: the group is all very very concerned
that I would be "asking for it", in light of the F5 –– I
asked if anyone else wanted to go in my place, and only one volunteered
RAVEN: As I understand it you did too with
BJ, but you are still there?
DONDEP: but even then, everyone
felt it would come back on me.
RAVEN: Can't speak to that.
DONDEP: (yes, but I wasn't
about to hold a major press conference either!)
RAVEN: All I can say is that it
would only be once, because they will chack the
logs later.
DONDEP: that's our concern. ––If found out, life is already
gonna be hell after the press conference, it could be much worse
later
RAVEN: They will know it came from someone,
but can't prove unless they worm the thing when it's happening.
DONDEP: everyone asked, what can be gained by this?
DONDEP: yes, hence our apprehension.... I'm not that good at faking
a Maji
RAVEN: Hell that's up to you.
I just thought you wanted the opp to talk more
with him.
RAVEN: Could the other person?
DONDEP: yes, I would love
to, but the calculus ...
DONDEP: possibly, let me
try her.
DONDEP: She would need to be briefed on what questions to ask him.
RAVEN: She?
DONDEP: It's a she. She also remote-viewed
Dan a couple times.
RAVEN: stand by
DONDEP: But, not as articulate or well-typed
(text) person
RAVEN: I know that Dan knows all 12 members.
DONDEP: That s another worry. –– He'd
know it was "wrong" might think I was a luciferian
RAVEN: Whomever J6 is, and I don't know, –– Then
he'll cut it off. Nothing lost.
Plus we may find out who J6 is. [laughs]
DONDEP: What could I possibly ask him, that
wouldn't alert the watcher? I'm saying I, and the rest, don't get
a good gut feeling about this at this time.
RAVEN: Ok then, we can call it off.
DONDEP: But, if it would help the cause...can
you get a transcript of any maji chats with Dan? or could any
other friends?
RAVEN: I can't but maybe my friend
there.
DONDEP: better yet, could
you conference with the group, so we could get some
more background? (at your convenience, of course
RAVEN: I can speak with them now.
DONDEP: okay, sb one moment...
RAVEN: Do have
a question? Have you spied him out at the Mirage
yet?
