MJ4: Hello?
Dondep: hello
MJ4: Hi! [smiles]
MJ4: Wake you up?
Dondep: hI! No!
Dondep: Sorry, startled
me tho!
Dondep: What is our sign?
MJ4: That's okay.
Dondep: Thank
you!
MJ4: They slipped up!
Dondep: How
so?
MJ4: I have Dr. Dan's entry code-
want to talk with him?
Dondep: YES!
MJ4: He is in a lousy mood I hear
but here we go----
Dondep: okay
MJ4: Rave
to Dano--
DAN BURISCH: Yes, Raven, ????
MJ4: I have someone for you-
DAN BURISCH: Who?
MJ4: Don
DAN BURISCH: really?
Dondep: It's me, Dr B! –– Are
you there, Dan?
MJ4: I am trying for
camera.
DAN BURISCH: I'm
here.
DAN BURISCH: Tired,
but here.
Dondep: It's
so good to see you; I am so sorry to wake you.
DAN BURISCH: You
haven't.
DAN BURISCH: I
am just beat..real problems with some images.
Dondep: The
team is worried that Bill may not be working
with us.
DAN BURISCH: I
don't know.
DAN BURISCH: I
love Bill.
Dondep: We
want to do what's right; can you say a few words
to Bill?
DAN BURISCH: I
am not so in love with selkies right now.
DAN BURISCH: Is
he on?
Dondep: You
know what we are about to do, and I want to make
sure we don't take you away from your work.
DAN BURISCH: No
one will be able to stop the model, unless, God
wills it, or the Selkies kill me first!
Dondep: okay!
[smiles] ––(trying to save a screen
shot, so they know kit was
really you)
LINK
to full size image
DAN BURISCH: I
have spent the last 17 hours on 3 images.
DAN BURISCH: Kit? ––Freudian
slip? [laughs]
Dondep: no!
[laughs]
Dondep: okay, saved it
DAN BURISCH: You
know that memo image that got sent to you...
DAN BURISCH: ?
Dondep: sorry Dan!
I wanted to hear from you that you still want a measure of freedom
and still maintain your safety.
DAN BURISCH: The
dodec recursion...
Dondep: not
yet.
Dondep: the 5 micros?
DAN BURISCH: It
was exchanged between us.
DAN BURISCH: sb
I will get the name.
Dondep: okay
DAN BURISCH: 04-001
Dondep: okay,
should I bring it up on screen?
LINK
to full size image
DAN BURISCH: Up to
you...this thing has been giving me fits.
Dondep: if it will
help!
Dondep: getting it now...
DAN BURISCH: Sure...I
should caution you with certain aspects of
it.
Dondep: okay. tell me!
Dondep: this is the one with
the writing, correct?
DAN BURISCH: Okay...these
were originally processed "elsewhere" and
not by me.
DAN BURISCH: Ya...
Dondep: EM
particles
Dondep: Class C
DAN BURISCH: Look
at the one to the right of the red image.
DAN BURISCH: Right...they
exist alright.
Dondep: yes,
I see 2 eyes almost.
DAN BURISCH: Right...
DAN BURISCH: my
questions (problems) with these images range
in the ultrastructure of the particles...The
images bear signatures of artifacts that are
very difficult to separate from the "true" structures....
Dondep: what
kind of artifacts?
DAN BURISCH: This
is not the first time this has happened. Artifacts
of the film/image filter process. The one
with two eyes... (as you called it) You may
see that it has an overall box like structure...
Dondep: the
honeycombs.....
DAN BURISCH: That
is very accurate. The honeycombs are a real
problem for me.
Dondep: What
do they represent, in your opinion?
DAN BURISCH: They
have occupied my last 17 hours. At this time...while
the presence of the hexahedron is a certainty...and
Dondep: This
recursion of dodecadedra..... (sorry, go on)
DAN BURISCH: as
I have watched the original film that demonstrates
the selkies moving between one platonic structure
and the next... I feel comfortable with the
gross structure. It is the "recursions" or
honeycombs that I have a problem with. I took
the images on "face" value so to
speak... that the image processing was done
correctly...and it may have been...but when
I look back at the originals of this image,
I am perturbed by the vertical and horizontal
lines in the original imagery.
Dondep: what
do you think they represent?
DAN BURISCH: Without
further ultrastructural confirmation I just
can't go on with the evidence of recursion.
They may be recursions that were postulated
by my analyst, and worked on by my asst. Director...or
they may be artifacts. So, we have to do some
real science here before the line of ultrastructural
evidence can be integrated into the model...so
I would caution you (and I am really glad that
we are speaking) about making too much of it
yet (the ultrastructure that is). The gross
issues are verified...and if I can send you
an image...
Dondep: Who
can help us that I can safely contact to work
with this? I can honestly say I have no understanding
of much of this science.
Dondep: you can definitely
send an image, just give me the right caption!
DAN BURISCH: Directly:
the small geometric circles, pentagons, etc.
may be false artifacts.
DAN BURISCH: sb
DAN BURISCH: Let
me show you something.
DAN BURISCH: Raven,
can I?
DAN BURISCH: try
DAN BURISCH: Okay.
Dondep: ready
to snap
Dondep: I'm here, Dan.
DAN BURISCH: Hello?
Got cut off I think.
Dondep: yes
DAN BURISCH: My
cam is dead.
Dondep: Yes,
here too.
DAN BURISCH: Did
you get the file?
Dondep: flying
blind now! Yes, rec
DAN BURISCH: Okay.
Dondep: 2
images
DAN BURISCH: The
one on the left is from a third analysis of
the class c particles.
DAN BURISCH: The
image on the right, a very close match is
from the Spallanzani replication that brought
some interesting results.
Dondep: a
spherical shape with 3 or more extensions.
DAN BURISCH: Right,
plus a little top too!
Dondep: [laughs]
Dondep: I see it.
DAN BURISCH: So,
the items are present.
Dondep: what
does that represent?
Dondep: "the items"
DAN
BURISCH: They are both
class C particles that accompany the
Ganesh Particles and the viruses in
the em river. Right now, I know more
about the ultrastructure of the GP,
than I do what you are looking at.
Dondep: the
GP AND the viruses travel together?
DAN
BURISCH: In close proximity.
Dondep: along
with these Class C's?
DAN
BURISCH: These "things" are
too weird for words.
DAN BURISCH: Yes.
Dondep: Like,
FIrst Class, Business, and Coach?
DAN BURISCH: [laughs]
DAN BURISCH: The
class C's (selkies) appear first from
DAN BURISCH: the
portals.
Dondep: not
trying to be funny, but glad you chuckled!
[smile]
Dondep: go on...
DAN BURISCH: Then
come bursts of GP's and viruses.
DAN BURISCH: Okay...the
overall structure of the class c's has
also been confirmed and I have demonstrated
(to my satisfaction and to the satisfaction
of others around me) that they cycle
through a predictable set of morphologies.
It's this recursion business that I am
struggling with...so... I caution (really
with this alone) on your presentation
of it to people. I have a sense from
the data, that the recursion is present,
but...I have to
base a case on firm ground, so to speak.
Dondep: what
are the worst implications of these recursions?
DAN BURISCH: Image
artifacts. Not real.
DAN BURISCH: This
issue has been the biggest problem I
have encountered in 4 years.
The other images (many of which you have not seen...I think...) that
will be going into the model, are 100% verified. I have ordered a
new set of images taken of these critters
and I will enhance them myself, as soon as they arrive. If necessary
I will drag out the cinema unit and do it myself.
Dondep: What
can we say of them? How important are
they, potentially?
DAN
BURISCH: If
they are real... then
we have a confirmation of layering and
composite platonic solids, in a recursive
state.
DAN BURISCH: (I
know. [laugh])
DAN BURISCH: Matching
structures within structures.
Dondep: this
would then mean?
DAN BURISCH: A
potentially infinite recursion. (or as
infinite as we can stand to think..[grin].
) BUT I DON'T KNOW.
Dondep: [smile]
DAN BURISCH: I
will try a second image to you.
Dondep: I
am trying to grok what you mean by recursion
.–– including the various
forms, recursive etc.....my science vocab
isn't up to snuff.
DAN
BURISCH: Trying
that again. sb
Dondep: Dan,
it's coming in, but slow.
DAN
BURISCH: [sad face]
Get rid of it, the file is too large.
I will send a jpg.
of the same thing.
Dondep: okay,
ditched. go ahead.
DAN
BURISCH: I hope it's
coming through.
DAN
BURISCH: ?
Dondep: (at
some point before we leave off can
you comment on your status (and Deb's,
I hear) as ministers in the church
of the Sanctuary of the Golden Petal?)
At almost 50% now.
(INSERT IMAGES)
DAN BURISCH: Forget
the color in the image...this is from a scratch disk, useable
just for the structure.
Dondep: at 85% now
DAN BURISCH: The
images are taken, b/w, left to right...0.1 sec apart. The far left
image...that is the left image in the first file I sent.
Dondep: on the lower tier?
DAN
BURISCH: Yes.
Dondep: So,
the above tier; same images?
just colorized?
DAN
BURISCH: The
image on the far upper right
is a comparison...this is just
a working file –– The
color exceeded the dynamic range
for this software..so we have
a rainbow.
Dondep: okay;
the resolution is better on
that.
DAN
BURISCH: The
image is "morphing" from
left to right. (and the object
is spinning)
Dondep: articulating
into more complex solids?
DAN
BURISCH: Yes,
that is about right.
DAN
BURISCH: Recursion-
Dondep: so,
the action of the morphing results
in a "recursion"?
DAN
BURISCH: I use
that term to mean almost a fractally
repeating structure.
DAN
BURISCH: My point
is this- to go closer, and to
say more about the structure
of this critter, or the structures
from which it is composed, is
being debated...and must be
verified before we can really say anything more about it.
Now, I am in an unusual circumstance here... Most scientists can
pick and choose [grin]
what they show to the public (usually in a peer reviewed publication).
I have well wishers around that are taking images and showing them
to people. [laugh]
Dondep: We
will have to help you where
we can; you will have to point
us in the right direction.
DAN
BURISCH: Not
that I have a problem with transparency,
but I think
Dondep: (Thank
you for the ringside seat, BTW)
DAN
BURISCH: Not
my doing...but it's cool.
DAN
BURISCH: Not
that I have a problem with transparency,
but I think this issue should
underscore that we be careful
of interpreting images, coming
from this research, on this ultrastructural
scale..
Dondep: yes,
help us define where that line
should be drawn. And how to present
that to the public.
DAN
BURISCH: without
my completing an evaluation,
and filing the report.
DAN
BURISCH: Okay...
DAN
BURISCH: Do you
have reports from me?
Dondep: only
from last March.
DAN
BURISCH: Filed
reports...listed as SMR's or
SGP's?
Dondep: The
one that Bill had, SMR I believe.
DAN
BURISCH: Okay...
Dondep: sb,
will verify in a quick sec then.
DAN
BURISCH: Everything
that is filed, I stand behind...100%.
DAN
BURISCH: If you
have images, without
Dondep: okay.
There are some xx's in there;
a big chunk of one section.
DAN
BURISCH: a supportive
report...Okay I know which one
I think...
DAN
BURISCH: a supportive
report...be careful.
Dondep: We
have many images without captions,
and many that do. The big report
I have was 31mb; dated March
21, 2003
Dondep: We
need a complete report, if possible.
Dondep: Or
at least the part the public
should know of.
DAN
BURISCH: Whatever
I have said to you directly...is
the truth and to that extent
that I can support....Okay...let
me check on what report that
was...DO YOU HAVE THE 18 PAGE
one? I have a lot about that
one ([grin]) I have heard a lot
about that one.
Dondep: the
one from eaglesdis website? from
2002?
DAN
BURISCH: yes.
Dondep: Of
course. That's what kept me up
late at night, reading and rereading.
DAN
BURISCH: Good
one to stand behind...I do.
Dondep: Thought
so. The mainstay.
DAN
BURISCH: As for
the letters SMR and SGP...do
you know what they stand for?
Dondep: What
we are trying to get is a succinct
report that sums up what Lotus
is about and how it can be demonstrated.
DAN
BURISCH: Special
Mission Recitation
Dondep: I'm
sorry I don't recall, but did
know the R one.
Dondep: okay,
thank you.
DAN
BURISCH: Sanctuary
of the Golden Petal.
DAN
BURISCH: as for
that... Imagine for a moment
you work in black ops...
DAN
BURISCH: [laugh
hard]
Dondep: [laughs
even harder]
DAN
BURISCH: and
are in such a position that you
are integrated into a open community...such
as... well....here in Las Vegas!
[grin]
DAN
BURISCH: You
want some protection [grin] from
certain "authority figures" that
may want to poke and prod into
places that would slow your work
down, and prevent...well...let's
say...a model getting done on
time!
DAN
BURISCH: The
First Amendment is an excellent
guarantee that certain things
are protected as certain kinds
of confidential business.
DAN
BURISCH: Get
it????????????
DAN
BURISCH: [laughs
grimly]
Dondep: these "authority
figures"....which ones?
How to distinguish them?
DAN
BURISCH: If they
are publically authorized...they
fit the bill.
Dondep: Not
sure I do. I understand black
ops, yes.
DAN
BURISCH: Church
Business is Church Business.
Dondep: understand
that many of the "public" gov't
can't know too much
Dondep: oh,
starting to make sense...
DAN
BURISCH: There
are limits as to what they can
know.
DAN
BURISCH: For
instance......Excuse me sir,
what are you doing right now?
Just practicing freedom of religion, officer! Here are my papers!
I will leave... The officer says...ah! –– religious nut.
Dondep: That
was my concern. I'm glad I cleared
that up.
DAN BURISCH: religious
nut.
Dondep: This
makes our mission harder, Dan.
DAN BURISCH: No.
DAN BURISCH: How
so?
Dondep: We
thought you wanted us to also help you gain a
measure of freedom.
Dondep: But
you are a willing minister, no?
DAN BURISCH: It
was put in place to give me an answer to questions
that could be asked. I...
DAN BURISCH: really
don't have much cause to do that.
DAN BURISCH: I
am a scientist.
DAN BURISCH: Yes,
freedom would be nice.
DAN BURISCH: [smile]
Dondep: You
aren't an eager seminarian in this nutcase scenario,
right? So, if we were able to engineer the kind
of public outcry that would have more than a
mere mayor or congressman nosing around,
DAN BURISCH: ?
DAN BURISCH: I
am no priest...studied for such years ago...didn't
fit me.
Dondep: you
would not resist the request to appear before
the duly elected reps, even if you must go behind
closed doors for part of your testimony?
DAN BURISCH: "eager
seminarian"??? NO!
DAN BURISCH: This
is a hedge, a dodge, put in place, without
Dondep: Then,
after a few rounds with the paparazzi, be whisked
back to safety, or would you prefer to walk in
the light of day completely?
DAN BURISCH: my
authorization, and to give me a programmed
DAN BURISCH: answer,
that I must give...if I comply with their wishes
that is.
DAN BURISCH: The
facts are these......as I know them...
DAN BURISCH: I
will complete the model.
DAN BURISCH: After
that, leaving the
DAN BURISCH: smoke
and shadows of Plato's cave is a real nice thought.
DAN BURISCH: If
I were to be brought into the light of day, prior
Dondep: I
don't need the bad guys to justify erasing or
detaining me by falling back on the old cliche
that you need to do your work in peace and safety.
Dondep: go
on...
DAN BURISCH: that
is fine. As I understand either of a couple of
timeline possibles...
I am, somehow... to finish the model...so good to go!
Dondep: We
would like to see not only you but myself to walk
in peace, "in the light", and the public
get its birthright, and you complete your work.
DAN BURISCH: As
for the bad guys... (I like that too!) As for
the bad guys...
I can't predict their behavior, either with or without things being
done.
Look at the Hutton Report for Christ's sake!
Enough whitewash to fill the Pond.
Dondep: But
obviously someone is threatening to use our effort
to bring this out as a way to "get at you",
and we don't want to fail in our case AND get
''erased". Oh, your friend Sir Kevin...
Dondep: Tell
him we thank him for his time talking to us.
DAN BURISCH: I
have personal concerns about that...yes...but...I
also have faith in God watching over not only
me...but Humanity.
DAN BURISCH: Frankly...
Dondep: yes,
but too much faith and not enough use of ye olde
noggin does a man no good!
DAN BURISCH: after
the amount of time that has passed since I spoke
with Bill on the Jeep Road near Frenchman...
where I processed a few of my concerns with he
and Alan..... I have had occasions where the "other
side" could have attempted snatches of me
and my "ye olde noggin."
DAN BURISCH: Why
haven't they?
Dondep: [ponders]
DAN BURISCH: I
am not at the NTS. I am here in Vegas. We have
friends that leave things like green bell peppers
on our door as gifts...
DAN BURISCH: No
rogue has attacked me (albeit a rep did once).
Dondep: (you
think its more of a threat to keep you from running?)
DAN BURISCH: I
haven't been whisked away into some "craft".
DAN BURISCH: No.
I have considered that. Their wishes are concretized.
Something (or someOne) is protecting me. As for my discussion with
Bill and Alan... I think all three should be present, to discuss
some of the details...I would think that they would want to broach
their comments in such a manner as to be appropriate. I am fine with
what I said...always am!
Dondep: Yes,
Bill tells me he is to meet with you soon. (Yes,
you can stand by whatever you say!)
DAN BURISCH: Some
concern was developed in the conversation that
the group that is attempting to bring my life,
history, circumstances to light
Dondep: (us)
[laughs]
DAN BURISCH: may
act in some kind of reckless manner. My feelings
about that are these...maybe (I don't know)...so?
Does anyone have (or should they ever expect)
complete control over how they, or their history
is perceived? Who are the arbiters of the truth?
DAN BURISCH: I
am aware...right now...that the nails (figuratively)
are being readied
for me.
Dondep: (If one knows
one's neighbor's house is to burn down next week, would we tell them?
If we know the value of his land will triple next week, would we
tell him?) Nails?!?!?
DAN BURISCH: I
am aware that people have claimed that I am a
raving maniac...
DAN BURISCH: (and
worse! )
Dondep: We
know you are not a MAD scientist, but an ANGRY
scientist!
DAN BURISCH: [laughs]
DAN BURISCH: EXACTLY!
SOMEONE GOT IT RIGHT!!!!!!!!!
DAN BURISCH: [laughs
again]
DAN BURISCH: You
have heard things...
DAN BURISCH: [laughs
yet again]
DAN BURISCH: Okay...
Dondep: (BTW,
we have a username and a password if and when
you can use it, at our RawkNet group collaboration,
building your story)
Dondep: [laughs]
You can proofread!
DAN BURISCH: While
I do not pretend...okay...doubtful...but what
the heck! [smile]
DAN BURISCH: While
I do not pretend to like such comments being
levelled about me (who would?)
Dondep: username
Dr Burisch. Password the same. Go on......
DAN BURISCH: Okay....
DAN BURISCH: I
expect it. In fact, there is a long and very
rich history of novel ideas, and their messengers...and
I am only that.....
Dondep: (www.xxxxx.xxxxxxxx)
DAN BURISCH: Okay..sb
copying...
Dondep: sorry,
continue
DAN BURISCH: Got
it...
DAN BURISCH: of
novel ideas, and their messengers...and I am
only that..... being vilified... I was presented
with a print out from some website forum...bad
something...
Dondep: astronomy?
DAN
BURISCH: where
people have been making me the
butt of their jokes and such...YA
THAT'S IT!
DAN BURISCH: I
noticed something... I saw a person's comments...called
crux or something like that... that spoke (for
the time) with a open mind, etc...
Dondep: that
was my wife Toni!
DAN BURISCH: then
I read (with great interest) the statements
Dondep: REALLY!
DAN BURISCH: [grins]
DAN BURISCH: from
others...
DAN BURISCH: Cool.
Dondep: please,
go on. she should hear this.
DAN BURISCH: They
said such things as 'I am farther out there than
Nancy Lieder'..etc.
DAN BURISCH: Nancy
[smiles]
DAN BURISCH: I
noticed something very important.... Two things
actually...
the repetition of comments (amount of time seemingly being spent
by those participants) in the forum (attacking about anyone they
can get their grips on)...and their names. The amount of comments,
and their acrid nature...speaks to me of people that like putting
others down. Strike one!
DAN BURISCH: Their
names...such as BAD GRAD...and...BAD PHD....
DAN BURISCH: I
take on face value!
Dondep: they
think their acidic nature is cool. continue....
DAN BURISCH: I
also saw a print from a site listed as Casseiopea
(sp?).
DAN BURISCH: They
(or he/she ?) call the
Dondep: okay;
Wyz will want to hear this!
DAN BURISCH: "Burisch
Doc".
Dondep: (think
it is a she)
DAN BURISCH: slippery.
DAN BURISCH: I
liked that!
DAN BURISCH: First...
I doubt they have read the doc (whichever of
the hundreds I have written). The individual
stated that I (or this "case") was
presenting a feel-good scenario that would accomodate
many conspiracies or mindsets so as to delimit
the impeachable nature by the type of individuals who often read
such material.
DAN BURISCH: Ever
hear me speak of bigfoot? [grin]
Dondep: no,
but they are their own definition!
DAN BURISCH: Nessie?
[grin]
DAN BURISCH: [guffaws]
Dondep: Some
keep trying to drag in the reptilians, and the
Draco, etc.
DAN BURISCH: Aside
from the interdisciplinary issues that we have
dicussed...and
Dondep: We
have to keep it strictly to the Ganesh, Lotus,
the DCTP, things which you can personally verify.
DAN BURISCH: Jrods.
DAN BURISCH: interdisciplinary
issues that we have dicussed...and the good message
of a loving and caring God....
Dondep: Yes,
for [name Redacted].....should
bring to life. In a manner of speaking.
DAN BURISCH: I
bring NO feel-good anything to this table.
Dondep: (There
is this question of a 'hive mind' of the J-Rod
culture)
DAN BURISCH: Slippery
is the perfect word for the author... the meanings
implicit and explicit within my work have slipped
their understanding.
Dondep: at
the Cassiopian site, that you are speaking of?
DAN BURISCH: So,
I like the word...slippery. Yes.
DAN BURISCH: It
was .org if I recall correctly.
Dondep: If
we could get the most succinct definition of
the GP, the Lotus, the DCTP. (thanks, will get
it from Wyz)
DAN BURISCH: The
J-Rods are able to have private introspection.
Dondep: Good
to hear; also, how did Jrod live in the regular
environment on occasion?
DAN BURISCH: A
Ganesh Particle is a polymorphic.........okay....
I will
Dondep: (Boom
want's to know how J-rod didn't always seem to
need a Clean Sphere environment)
DAN BURISCH: answer
the last question first...
The Jrod with which I was honored to associate required the pressurized
environment within which we interacted. He could not have survived
without it. (That is, in our atmosphere). To illustrate this...
Dondep: So,
Bill Uhouse's account of him at the conference
table in a workshirt is incorrect?
DAN BURISCH: let
me explain to you what.........NO WAY!
Bill Uhouse is telling the truth.........let me explain....... First...to
the issue of direct experience...
The keepers of the ambassador suite (S4-4/5)... would punish the
Jrod by changing the pressure in the clean sphere...when he would
not comply with instructions... that action
caused great pain for him. I know this...directly. Great pain.
Dondep: (didn't
have anything to do with his neurological disorder
tho, right?)
DAN BURISCH: No,
but exacerbation of symptoms was a certainty!
Bill Uhouse is clearly describing a JRod that
was interacting with the Maji from an earlier
(closer to present) timeline.
DAN BURISCH: The
Jrods (in that timeline) are able to still breathe...
Dondep: how
close, would you guess?
DAN BURISCH: I
can only guess...for his...that is... My friend
came from several thousands of years distant.
I would suppose that....um...... there may be
at least a few thousand years between them. From
what I am aware of the evolutionary process to
which we come to be what I hope that we will
never encounter... The changes in post-catastrophe
atmosphere act as environmental pressures that
provide a transitional state between what we
would consider normal atmosphere (present) and
an extremely low oxygen partial pressure.
From the drawings that I saw of the JRod that Mr. Uhouse said he
saw... variation toward a lower partial pressure of oxygen was probably
well underway.... The wind pipe size is a cue for me. The nails were
also...
It is true that the JRods go through a phase of increased keratin
proliferation
Dondep: so
there is an evolutionary change that takes place
quite rapidly in the aftermath of the shift,
resulting in many of these changes.....go on......
DAN BURISCH: to
include the sharp and thickened nails.
DAN BURISCH: Fairly
fast, yes...if I were to present the nature of
the changes in a nutshell, I would suggest that
it is to proceed with the same vigor as the Cambrian
Explosion. The only things that pop out at me
that would be radically different than the theorized
(much earlier...Proterozoic framed) transition
from a reducing to an oxidizing global environment
if we are to consider the magnitude of changes
in a post-catastrophe earth, would be 1. Our
presence in the latter, and the recovery of the
present from of biospheric feedback loops and
homeostasis.
#2 was the last comment. I have great interest in punctuated equilibrium
and how that figures into this equations.........the present geochemical
cycles...etc.
Dondep: present
form of biospheric feedback loops.... time loops?
DAN BURISCH: I
have great interest in punctuated equilibrium
and how that figures into this equations.........the
present geochemical cycles...etc.
The issues involving the time loops...is another feature... one that
I have a hard time (to be honest) fully wrapping my head around.
Dondep: "punctuated
equilibrium"....euphemism for Catastrophe
Evolutionary Theory? (I remember you spoke of
it before)
DAN BURISCH: As
for Bill seeing me soon...? I sugggest that we
not broach that subject...in case you were considering
it...just for the sake that if it is possible...I
would like that possibility left undisturbed...
Dondep: We
want to know we can count on Bill to testify
as to who you are; we don't need these other
poobahs. Bill is godfather to this effort and
a friend to both you and I.
DAN BURISCH: No,
it isn't limited, under the J. Gould notions
to a so-called Shiva Hypothesis...it is much
more complicated...with many more factors that
promote evolutionary movements (preceived as
leaps or jumps when inappropriately framed with
the wrong intervals vs. speed of change in mind).
Now, don't get me wrong...I have every intention, in this model to
tack a good old-fashioned college try "whack" at K3 as
J. Gould would call it... the perception of the wondrous...sb call.
DAN BURISCH: Okay...back
Dondep: [smile]
DAN BURISCH: the
perception of factors from Natural Selection
being worked into the enitire panoply of life
that we see (both in the so-called present as
well as the life record, including fossils proper).
While I am no lover of Darwin (laugh )...
Dondep: yes,
we know! [laugh]
DAN BURISCH: I
also have no intention to improperly attempt
any destruction of those aspects coming from
his theory that are supported by empirical evidence.
I also will not
be supporting abiogenesis or the so-called "spontaneous generation." This
last statement may appear to fly in the face of the evidence, now
under hand,
from the Spallanzani replication. It doesn't.
The life code... is coming from a "somewhere" and/or "somewhen"...
it is not being constructed from lifelessness. I wonder, what it
is like, the home of this information? Some, I feel, have called
it Heaven.
Dondep: yes,
the implications of that....
DAN BURISCH: others
the foamy ocean of Maha Vishnu, and still others...
Anyway...the Ganesh Particle....They are, a notion
with which I have come to associate, the pure
particles spoken of in the Hindu Religion.The
so called pavitrakas. I will not elaborate as
to the appropriateness of the aspects of the
use of pavitrakas in the idol worship in Hinduism.
To each his/her own. We all find our way back to God...one way or
the other.
The GP's are, we find, possessing of a combination of very unusual
energy...that I would only be able to term as - not fully bound to
this dimensional reality - that is - they appear to act, in many
of the ways that we have heard of the consequences of Quantum Theory.
Popping in and out of our ability to see them. They also possess
most certainly, what we would declare as physical (material) components.
For the first time, we were able to trap one. This occurred during
the Spallanzani replication. The selkies (class c's) are also able
to be preserved.
DAN BURISCH: Would
you like to see the GP?
DAN BURISCH: (I
know the answer)
DAN BURISCH: (
)
Dondep: (Do
you need a Rife 'scope to see them, BTW? Do you
have one there at S4?)
DAN BURISCH: Let
me get the image, then I will comment on the
Rife technology.
DAN BURISCH: sb
DAN BURISCH: It
will take a minute to get this one...I have it
in a large file...sb
Dondep: 'k,
will do.
DAN BURISCH: Okay...sending...this
is a really beautiful b/w image.
DAN BURISCH: The
cell to the bottom right is a protocell undergoing
the pentagonal formation that all protocells,
from this research, seem to transition. The GP
is the beautiful swirl on the left.
Dondep: I
see it now.
DAN BURISCH: When
I saw it, all I could say is "My God!"
DAN BURISCH: It's
copy, another one was preserved in a mass of
protocells...and I can send that to you...this
mass is the same one
DAN BURISCH: as
where we found the class c copy (radiocarrot
as we call it).
Dondep: so
the GP is the mass on the left, exiting from
the protocell?
DAN BURISCH: I
am not sure whether it was exiting or what it
was doing at the time of capture.
DAN BURISCH: sb
I will send you another image. Have to do a quick
label and cut...
Dondep: no
prob. "proceed at your own pace", as
Bill would say.
DAN BURISCH: On
the way.
Dondep: Dan,
if we could have you yourself, depending on your
friends (and ours) on the inside, appear on this
same webcam but say on a wall plasma screen.
(says you are behind a firewall now...hmmm)
DAN BURISCH: Is
it coming?
Dondep: Can you try it again
now? took down mine.
DAN BURISCH: Red
is the radiocarrot match, white is the GP trapped
in the mass, and blue is the inset from the last
image I sent you.
DAN BURISCH: The
inset is rotated 180 degrees for comparison.
Dondep: Class
C, GP, and inset.
DAN BURISCH: inset
(GP)
Dondep: same
as the white arrow point?
DAN BURISCH: I
have no way to determine or schedule these interactions...exactly...
close if not the same.
Dondep: what
is the size of these particles? About the same
5 micros?
DAN BURISCH: I
have no issue that would concern me enough not
to speak with anyone. Yes, these are in that
range.
Dondep: the screen I was about
to speak of would be facing a number of the media.
DAN BURISCH: If
it can be scheduled...but how can that be done?
Dondep: This
way they could practically do everything but
touch you . Short of getting a lock of your hair.
DAN BURISCH: Ouch!
Dondep: we
have to keep our city and day secret. Within
the next 2 weeks.
DAN BURISCH: With
what little I have left, I hide! If it is possible,
I have no problem.
Dondep: We
are going to make an all-out effort (oh, the
hair! sorry for that metaphor!)
DAN BURISCH: I
will speak with anyone that wishes to chat. (When
able) Let me send you something...
Dondep: Great. We will have
to let our friends (yours too) keep you apprised.
Dondep: okay, ready.
DAN BURISCH: Same
image target, closer to normal Kohler illumination...with
enhanced insets.
Dondep: It
will be around Valentine's Day (sorry couldn't
be ready by your birthday!) The team would love
to throw a B-Day party for you, I'm sure....still
loading...(Apologies to the gang when they read
this; sorry we hadn't voted on taking Dan to
dinner!)
DAN BURISCH: Upper
left inset a protocell isolation....
DAN BURISCH: Lower
right, protein material still being coiled
into the mass of protecells for use.
Dondep: okay,
coiltarget?
DAN BURISCH: Ya.
Dondep: roger.
see it.
DAN BURISCH: I
named it that as a scratch for a more proper
later cut.
Dondep: for
use? in what? GP production?
DAN BURISCH: in
cell production.
DAN BURISCH: We produced masses of cells from...essentially
denatured protein.
DAN BURISCH: (Codes and machination from elsewhere
though!)
DAN BURISCH: One more....this one is weird... Ready?
On the left is a Ganesh Particle passing a target cell that it will
be working upon.... On the right.... is the reconstructed nucleus
that the same Ganesh Particle worked on. Which means...the appearance
of the GP took the form of the nucleus that was to be. (before it
reconstructed it).
Time problem? –– Problem
with sequence of events? That's right! Out
of order! ––Which means...to
me.... that the nature and form of the repair
was either
1. Known in advance. or 2. Was accessed in some fashion (enabling
its observation) prior to the action (in our timeframe) occurring.
Set me on my ass! Still does.
Dondep: I
can see that. It reminds me strongly of the
EM field around the secret life of plants.
DAN BURISCH: That em field is where we can
discuss the Rife.
Dondep: Allthough that had more to do with ESP.
DAN BURISCH: precognition,
presentiment, DCTP, same thing to me.
Dondep: Okay;
the GP knowing in advance is mind-boggling.
DAN BURISCH: It
passed through an energy density that visualized
the happening...I think.
Dondep: well,
the plants could actually feel if the human
approaching was even THINKING of cutting
them –– and so manifested a certain
degradation.
Dondep: go on, sorry Dan....
DAN BURISCH: They
react....but is it a chemotactic response
to some kind of pheromone of sorts? I don't
know. The physics team at S4 had one, I think,
a Rife.
Dondep: so,
the GP steals into reality, chameleon-like,
except reflecting a future, healed reality
DAN BURISCH: Very
good! It is my view that its operation (and
that cannot be described with normal electro
Dondep: You
never used it then, I take it. The Rife.
DAN BURISCH: No.
Dondep: back
to the Ganesh, go on..
DAN BURISCH: Wouldn't
at that time have been interested in it either...now.....YA!
DAN BURISCH: From what I understand Rife took an
entire day to adjust the strange
scope that he developed. The mysterious forces upon which he relied
are, quite possibly the same electromagnetic flows that allow the
visualization of the viral particles that emerge from the Shiva portals,
with the use of a rather standard optical compound microscope.
Dondep: Yes, I read that too
(about the Rife scope). But accessing the GPs?
DAN BURISCH: I
am not a physicist, but the image amplification
system that Rife applied gives me the same
feel as what we are observing with the em river.
I think it to be an application of the same
principle.
I am hesitant to make an application of this issue to current healthcare
(that is the em river from whence this research flows...pun intended)...however,
the direct use of the Rife scope (if it works as advertized)... could
have applications...but you really don't expect the healthcare industry
to make such medication-devoid gains, do you?
Dondep: profit-devoid
gain, you mean? [laugh]
MJ4: Sorry, Dondep I have
had to switch Dan off. Day shift is coming in soon.
Dondep: Will you stay in
touch with us closely ?–– Over
the next 2 weeks?
It sounds like we may have Dan in his own words.
MJ4: As closely
as I can. I have trouble keeping the eyes out of these
Dondep: So
no-one can put words in his mouth that don't
belong there.
Dondep: We greatly appreciate
all you do.
MJ4: conversations. I doubt
that this name will last very long because they are trying right
now to get in.
MJ4: I will do what I can!
Dondep: okay, let me know when you get a new username!
MJ4: I just think that Dan is appreciating all the help
he gets and I do think the world ought to know about this stuff.
Dondep: I will be here, and
Cracka, any time.
Dondep: Good, we believe
that too. If we do our job right out here
MJ4: Flying High!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dondep: then the world WILL
know!
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